RiliSoft frauded us with PGW.

Discussion in 'Pixel Gun World General Discussions' started by ᎫʉᏕʈᎱ℮ᏜℱᎽ, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. ᎫʉᏕʈᎱ℮ᏜℱᎽ

    ᎫʉᏕʈᎱ℮ᏜℱᎽ SuperRiot Clan Leader | PGW Veteran

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    Hey guys, JustLeafy here and a few days ago, I have discovered that somebody has exposed the PGW team in the forums of the PG Wiki. His name is VendettaVisionGuy, a PG Wiki staff member, all credits go to him, as I did not initially describe the theory, but he did. That's what this theory describes:

    "Pixel Gun World. A good game that could be compared to other underrated Steam games in terms of general gameplay and developer generosity. Something unlike PG3D, the game it was ported from.

    Then, June 10th, 2016 came. The game completely crippled without any prior announcement. Everybody was devastated. Some really want the game to come back. However, I doubt it will come back. Why?

    THE ENTIRE GAME WAS A SETUP JUST FOR RILISOFT TO GET MONEY.

    You want to hear theories?

    When PGW was first released, 3D was in a deadly state. PG3D became a rigged game built with greed. RiliSoft was getting money over their past respect during the pre-8.3.0 days. They turned to the dark side. They wanted to get money by rigging PG3D. But this clearly wasn't enough if they needed extreme amounts of €€€. Practically, this is my paradigm on the backstory of World.

    RiliSoft was a company with 7 employees before PG3D was made. As 3D grew, they needed more employees to keep the game going. With the amount of money they earned before [​IMG] were added, they hired a new set of employees to work on PG3D. The old employees were called in to work on a new game to cater for bigger gaming communities. Knowing all the good things implemented into PG3D, they had to sample that information into World. A few different features to properly cater for the PC gaming community, and bam. Done and done with the development of the closed beta, and they were already receiving cash. The game didn't even need a Kickstarter. People found the game better than PG3D, and were fine with spending their money, since the game was already worth a free download.

    A year into PGW, RiliSoft never cared about the state of PG3D, since the more experienced developers behind World helped them escape bankruptcy. When they received more than enough money, their plan 100% succeeded. They closed it down, ran away with everyone's money, and don't even bother bringing it back anymore, since PG3D is slowly turning into PGW, only trashed.

    So this is where I end this theory. Is this theory something good or a bag of bullets? That's where you guys come in."
    The theory may be true, and may actually be the real reason why PGW is down. But no one will ever know for sure why they shut it down. But to me, RS seems to try to definitely escape bankruptcy, and in a sneaky way, steal as much money from us as possible by making more scammy IAPs. Who knows if RiliSoft's future plans are to make the game even more P2W? What do you think guys?
     
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  2. Admiral Ansoa

    Admiral Ansoa Grand VizeAdmiral

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    I wonder, if PGW was getting its funds, why did they shut it down when they could have continued with it?
    I heard that a major reason for shutting down the game was not getting enough funding, so yeah this is pretty confusing, though this theory sounds pretty...accurate in a way
    If anything, the game is not that far to its first anniversary of being shut down, i wonder if anything will happen in the upcoming months
     
  3. B@tMan

    B@tMan Go off on them

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    Looking at PGW footage, it looks like it could've been a really good game. I would've bought it and played it if I had a PC. IF THEY DID shut down the game and run off with everyone's money to save themselves from bankruptcy, well what are we going to do now? It's already happened.....just don't give money to a company that practices shady tactics to get money off of you. Maybe if RiliSoft was more upfront about their financial issues, players would've supported them and donated money? Not give players false hope in a new game and get rid of it.....
     
  4. U.N. Owen

    U.N. Owen Need more speed

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    If they'd go bankrupt, the game is gone which is why they want money, also game servers cost money, businesses are made for profit.
     
  5. Admiral Ansoa

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    Well if the game does come back, they'll get a crap ton of hate if no one or the majority doesn't get their purchased items and currency back.
     
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    link please
     
  7. ᎫʉᏕʈᎱ℮ᏜℱᎽ

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    Looks like Rilisoft had such scandals that arose from the game they developed, which made the outburst from the players worse.
     
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    Rilisoft stop spending your money on Vodka!
     
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    Said something similar back when PGW closed the game:
    [​IMG]
     
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    It's basically one of those gamer traps (where you get bounced over by luring yourself into thinking a game's good, think tourist trap), the only exception being that the game didn't stick around with a mask forever

    I doubt RS has financial issues, they made thousands from being respected back in the day

    Is that you carter?

    I swear I didn't copy from you

    PL
    I'm not "whining" about the game, I never even PLAYED the game. Like I said, it's just a paradigm.

    Also, yes, I'm the guy that wrote the entire theory.
     
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  12. Iron Lord

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    Of course it is!
     
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    Never said that you did. :tongueout:
     
  14. Daniel Hyuuga

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    This is not true. As an ex-Lead Moderator, the game was shut down due to insufficient funding (even though devs continue to not spill a word, some doesn't know why either). The Pixel Gun game targets their user base on childrens, so does PGW. Now let me ask you something:

    1. If your audience is childrens, can they posses credit cards / VISA / MasterCard?
    2. If they can spend money, how much their parents will allow?
    3. If you did get some revenue, is it enough to cover all cost? (servers, unity3d subscription, staff salary, website software and etc..)

    I hereby request everyone to stop badmouthing the developers (PGW specifically). They are all good people. Unless you have ever involved in some serious business (trading, sale and etc..), you are not in place to judge them!
     
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    TBH... im pretty sure people would be less butthurt if they just clearly announced that PGW was being shut down due to lack of funding instead of closing it behind our backs with the saying that "they're working on it."

    and I personally don't give two $#!+s about their staffs anymore with what the game has become. especially the people behind PG3D...
     
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  16. Daniel Hyuuga

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    The reason why the shutdown announcement was never put up as early as possible, is beyond Sitka's help. She is one of the devs that is last to be informed about the sudden notice.
     
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    So you're basically supporting the Pay2Win system that Rilisoft setup, you do realize Rilisoft is much more capable than this right now if it weren't for their excessive greediness like what Activision has become today. I seriously think RS is lying behind their backs. And you should realize how much $$$ they made from that freaking 50k pack of pay2win crap and a free pet because it's OP as hell.
     
  18. Daniel Hyuuga

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    Then name me few games that is Free2Win, without the need to buy boosts or other junks to gain extra advantage
     
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    And have you considered this?

    3. If you did get some revenue, is it enough to cover all cost? (servers, unity3d subscription, staff salary, website software and etc..)

    ** DO MIND THAT "ETC.." CONTAINS NUMEROUS OF OTHER THINGS**
     
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    So, the 'truth' is that PGW was suddenly cancelled due to the lack of funds?
    The lack of a kickstarter may had caused the game to topple easily. I guess people on PGW didn't do that in fears of backlash from the community.
    We see that the PGW team is doing better than the PG3D team. As PGW has many options to proceed through the game while on PG3D... sigh, occasionally needs your wallet every dang time.
    Also, did the two teams merged back into one or the others left their job?
     
  21. Vulpes

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    Block Strike and Pixel Strike.
     
  22. Daniel Hyuuga

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    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    ????

    Whether you want to believe it or not, is up to you. The only ones who is closer to the devs knows their fate after Pixel Gun World project dismissal. You guys who knows nothing should stop badmouthing them. For PG3D behalf I could care less, but for Pixel Gun World, they are not for the blame.
     
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  23. Vulpes

    Vulpes Shitty Roleplayer.

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    Pixel Strike, in-app purchases for guns and skins to them, all of them balanced and fair to use. No armour usage.
    Block Strike, in-app purchases just for money to buy weapons and skins, all of them balanced too.
     
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    And I ask you something, if you develop a stickman FPS but it hardly get any audience nor profit, would you still continue wasting money to keep all the resources up??

    But I suppose I could not ask such question because not all of you have been into business nor have actual experience of it, plus this question needs such maturity to correctly answer it.

    [​IMG]

    It seems Pixel Strike 3D still suffers an unbalanced feature of overusing grenade, and is suggested by their own members that they should implement Pixel Gun's grenade control likewise. And also it seems blast shield is to be added in future. So "no armor".
     
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